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Post by a friend how what to no on Dec 19, 2003 14:35:41 GMT -5
I am asking what proof do you have of the RRA corruption and what kandarin has done. I and a lot of the RRA are sick of hearing people saying we're the bad guys, we'll prove it. Please I am sick of this bull S*** give us your proof and then we will see what happens.
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Myrdinn
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Post by Myrdinn on Dec 19, 2003 14:55:35 GMT -5
Hmmmmmmmmmm. I'm guessing Gettersburg wrote this...
By the way, it did not surprise me one bit that the RRA was scheming behind all of this. The proof has been posted on one of the threads in the NPO forum. I find it most satisfying to see that I was right about your organization. They are far more corrupt than they lead you to believe.
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Post by gettersburg on Dec 19, 2003 15:06:46 GMT -5
do you think i would listen to a traitor and a back staber of friends
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Post by gettersburg on Dec 19, 2003 15:13:23 GMT -5
any one else got a idea of what the hell is going on i ask a Question and stell Twinkles has seid nouthing the FPA are my friend and this dose as no good for our Allys and as form me to |CG and the rest of the FPA plese forgive my home for this political moveing by the RR
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Post by Siggi on Dec 19, 2003 15:17:38 GMT -5
Well as for the shock revelation, let me assure you that it was all talk. Most of our talk centered on wether or not we should actually consider doing anything about Norion's request. Truthfully the idea was not well received, but a plan was brainstormed IF we agreed to do it. Let me stress that we in the RR never agreed to do what was requested. The talk was held in a closed Forum .... a Forum that Savage in all his honorable notions decided to make public without finding out what exactly we planned to DO!! I ask him to point to proof of action we took in this situation or a similar one before he continues this slander.
The fact of the matter is this is a non-story from the RR pooint of view, as we received a request, discussed it (including the formulation of a possible action) and decided against doing it. Savage may believe he stopped our action by coming forward, I can understand how he might believe this, but the fact is we never planned to respond to the request. The only thing that happened was I realized Savage has a moral code that does not include asking his "friends" what is going on before posting all their comments all over the place. A lesson learned and I am still waiting for the evidence of our smear tactics.
As for Myrdinn..... anyone in bed with Francos is much too easy of a target. And I will openly admit trying to remove Franocs. His stellar record speaks for itself.
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Post by Twinkles on Dec 20, 2003 10:19:53 GMT -5
i ask a Question and stell Twinkles has seid nouthing please don't drag me into this... The proof I have is savages word. I never said that I had personally seen it, I never said that it was definitely definitely true. I just quoted savage. It is your choice whether you believe him or not.
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Post by Siggi on Dec 20, 2003 12:09:19 GMT -5
please don't drag me into this... The proof I have is savages word. I never said that I had personally seen it, I never said that it was definitely definitely true. I just quoted savage. It is your choice whether you believe him or not. Oh but my dear, do you not think that many believe it to be true because you write it as "news". In any case, we did not follow through on any discussion or brainstorming session. If he truly thought we would do this, why not wait and call us on it after we already committed the act? Much easier to prove our intentions with his evidence and our actions. But I guess he had his own reasons for bringing it out when he did.... since I have no proof of that I will leave it to speculation.
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Post by Twinkles CBB 2 log in on Dec 20, 2003 14:46:14 GMT -5
Oh but my dear, do you not think that many believe it to be true because you write it as "news". In any case, we did not follow through on any discussion or brainstorming session. If he truly thought we would do this, why not wait and call us on it after we already committed the act? Much easier to prove our intentions with his evidence and our actions. But I guess he had his own reasons for bringing it out when he did.... since I have no proof of that I will leave it to speculation. I write it as news, but it does mention that savage quoted it. If any member of the RRA wishes to speak out on it, feel free. I'll make another news story
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Post by Twinkles on Dec 21, 2003 9:33:14 GMT -5
Oh, and by the way, the shock revelation was NOT about the RRA,,, it was based around norion...
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Geomania
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Post by Geomania on Dec 21, 2003 13:34:02 GMT -5
What difference does that make? You published something that was untrue, and you didn't even go to other people, like Siggi, to see their opinion on the story. This site probably gets more hits than any other site connected to NS, and this article proved the false stereotype that the RRA is full of scum. This is flawed journalism, and an apology should be given to all members of the RRA.
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Post by Siggi on Dec 21, 2003 16:43:46 GMT -5
Oh, and by the way, the shock revelation was NOT about the RRA,,, it was based around norion... Yes I think you found Savage's motive too.... but I didn't say it.
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Post by Berhampore on Dec 22, 2003 4:46:32 GMT -5
Oh, and by the way, the shock revelation was NOT about the RRA,,, it was based around norion... And why didn't you quote Norion? Did you attempt to contact him, and if so, why didn't you mention it (i.e."Norion didn't respond to allegations" or some such note if you couldn't talk to him). At the very least you could mention that Norion put out a statement regarding this - heck, even the NPO published that statement. And speaking of the NPO, Can you, Twinkles, substantiate this very serious allegation (or is it an allegation of an allegation - it seems confused to me)? Can you ad a link to the story where you first made this 'link'? Who are these 'others' and can you quote them, or are they all asking to be anonymous? The 'no doubt' makes me think you actually don't have any idea about this, however. I'm not trying to be harsh or combatitive, but such an important story seems to need far more attention than you've given it. Already there are complaints, from non-WestPac nations, that Radionews has become biased and so totally focused on the Pacific, Corinthe and Savage Lands that you are nothing more than a 'house organ' for the FPA. That would be a sad state for the best news service the NS world has had.
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Post by Yasmin Lane on Dec 22, 2003 4:52:37 GMT -5
You mean this statement?
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Post by Yasmin Lane on Dec 22, 2003 5:02:41 GMT -5
Also, some relevant threads on other forums: This from the Rejected Realms forum. And from the Pacific Army forum, this one, this one and finally, this oneI can't link to any threads on the West Pacific forum, because it is not visible for guests.
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Post by Zhdanov on Dec 22, 2003 5:14:45 GMT -5
Perhaps you should of spoken with more than one source before you made posted this bit of "news." It also would not be a bad idea to get an editor as well to fix the numerous spelling errors throughout the article, very unprofessional. It's Erlenav not "elelnav."
Erlenav "gave up" and conceded to Norion. He told Norion and everyone in the West Pacific forum that he would not be running against Norion. Shortly thereafter he broke his word. Thus he was ejected.
This is irrelevant. I do know that after his actions against the West Pacific he may not be as respected as he once was. Norion banned Savage because he entered into the West Pacific with the intention of overthrowing Norion. He did not speak with Norion originally, he just started swapping endorsements. Despite this Norion forgave him and allowed Savage back in two other times with Savage promising to not run against him. Savage broke these promises. Thus he was ejected. He continues to lie about what has happened in an attempt to weaken Norion's position. These are not the actions of a respected figure.
No one really knew anything about Erlenav, he did not want to collect "dirt" on him he wanted to try to find out about his past. For all we know he could of been another Francos Spain in the making. Norion does not eject people without reasoning behind it. Additionally he has barely ejected anything from the West Pacific. Most of the people ejected are those who spam the forum with obsecene language.
Erlenav was ejected for breaking his promise not to run against Norion. Savage was ejected for being a foreign conquerer. Savage is not a native to the West Pacific. His actions of trying to overthrow "our" delegate are deplorable. He is merely venting his anger on the fact he has been unsuccessful in removing Francos Spain from power. He is moving from one cause to the other. After all is said and done with this current situation I would not be surprised if he decided to try to get back at the RRA for not supporting him.
Given the actions Savage has taken in response to Norion's actions he will not be unbanned from the West Pacific. I believe Savage should refocus his attention on Francos Spain unless he has decided that his original cause is of no more importance.
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