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Post by Berhampore on Dec 22, 2003 5:45:29 GMT -5
Very nice, add it to the original article where readers will see it and I'll sleep easy.
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Post by Berhampore on Dec 22, 2003 5:59:11 GMT -5
Also, some relevant threads on other forums: This from the Rejected Realms forum. And from the Pacific Army forum, this one, this one and finally, this oneI can't link to any threads on the West Pacific forum, because it is not visible for guests. Interesting, and hard on the eyes ; ) Now, if it isn't too much trouble, write that up into a nice little story and publish it properly. Just to be fair, you should ask for statements from all those people (SLR, Hrmmm, Ulcastor and the rest) before you just hand out what looks to me like confidential information
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Post by Yasmin Lane on Dec 22, 2003 8:00:35 GMT -5
Berhampore, I would love to write a story on this, but since this is Twinkles' scoop, it wouldn't be fair to "steal" her story. So, I won't write a story on this matter, unless Twinkles asks me to, or says it's okay for me to do so.
I'm sure Twinkles is willing to interview Norion and others in this matter, showing the different points of view on this.
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Post by gettersburg on Dec 22, 2003 9:01:14 GMT -5
please don't drag me into this... The proof I have is savages word. I never said that I had personally seen it, I never said that it was definitely definitely true. I just quoted savage. It is your choice whether you believe him or not. but my dear you are in it up to you neck in it you see this is how i put it are you our are you not a member of the FPA do you stand by ever think savage dose and says do you our do you not give a one way point of view on news you report iam sorry but you are in this you started it no you finish it i ask you for proof and yet you have given none iam sick of one way point of view if you cant do the job of reporting news with a unbiss point DONT BOTHER
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Post by Twinkles on Dec 22, 2003 11:14:57 GMT -5
You want proof of what they were planning? will this do?
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Post by Twinkles on Dec 22, 2003 11:26:08 GMT -5
if you cant do the job of reporting news with a unbiss point DONT BOTHER OK gettersburg, theres only so much I can take. There are a lot of things I could say about you, but I'm not going to. D'you know why? Because I'm not that sort of person. If you want me to resign, fine, but you could at least tell me in private instead of saying it in front of everyone. This isn't the first time either. I seem to remember you telling me that because I'm female I couldn't 'handle' anything anti francos, and that I needed your 'protection,' I'm as much biased as you are sexist. If you could do a better job, fine, contact jerome. We can do a swap. and NSG, i don't ind if you cover the story. I have asked norion for an interview though...
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Post by Berhampore on Dec 22, 2003 17:54:59 GMT -5
You want proof of what they were planning? will this do? >snip< Fine, except that the parties involved say that plan was floated and dropped - in other words they didn't do anything wrong. Unless we are restricting speech now, of course. Do you have any proof that this plan was carried out to any extent? Did you interview Southern Crapolia (funny name ) for his part in this? Come on Twinkles - are you a reporter or editor? Biased or unbiased? Is this the policy of NSG, yourself or the FPA? So far you've ignored the WestPac election law and SLR's oath to Norion - SLR was welcome in the FPA mission opposing tyranny then started gather endorsements on the order of 100 a day via swapping in violation of his oath at minimum. Erlenav was in direct violation of the WestPac law - the only puzzle there is why the delay in ejection (maybe ask Norion about that). I hate to be negative but I can't sit by and see this happen to the WP; I'm really a nice guy and usually love to support the media - as long as it is independant. This doesn't appear to be the case here, but I'd like to be proven wrong.
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Post by SavageLandsReloaded on Dec 22, 2003 20:19:01 GMT -5
Perhaps you should of spoken with more than one source before you made posted this bit of "news." It also would not be a bad idea to get an editor as well to fix the numerous spelling errors throughout the article, very unprofessional. It's Erlenav not "elelnav." Erlenav "gave up" and conceded to Norion. He told Norion and everyone in the West Pacific forum that he would not be running against Norion. Shortly thereafter he broke his word. Thus he was ejected. This is irrelevant. I do know that after his actions against the West Pacific he may not be as respected as he once was. Norion banned Savage because he entered into the West Pacific with the intention of overthrowing Norion. He did not speak with Norion originally, he just started swapping endorsements. Despite this Norion forgave him and allowed Savage back in two other times with Savage promising to not run against him. Savage broke these promises. Thus he was ejected. He continues to lie about what has happened in an attempt to weaken Norion's position. These are not the actions of a respected figure. No one really knew anything about Erlenav, he did not want to collect "dirt" on him he wanted to try to find out about his past. For all we know he could of been another Francos Spain in the making. Norion does not eject people without reasoning behind it. Additionally he has barely ejected anything from the West Pacific. Most of the people ejected are those who spam the forum with obsecene language. Erlenav was ejected for breaking his promise not to run against Norion. Savage was ejected for being a foreign conquerer. Savage is not a native to the West Pacific. His actions of trying to overthrow "our" delegate are deplorable. He is merely venting his anger on the fact he has been unsuccessful in removing Francos Spain from power. He is moving from one cause to the other. After all is said and done with this current situation I would not be surprised if he decided to try to get back at the RRA for not supporting him. Given the actions Savage has taken in response to Norion's actions he will not be unbanned from the West Pacific. I believe Savage should refocus his attention on Francos Spain unless he has decided that his original cause is of no more importance. The only people who would lose respect for me over this incident are the people I no longer have an ounce of respect for anyway, like you, Zhandov, for example. Riddle me this, Batman, were you witness to the telegram Norion sent me when he specifically used the word "dirt" in asking for what he wanted on Erlenav? No you weren't, were you? I guess you just take whatever Norion says for the gospel truth, which is kinda funny considering how you were plotting behind his back when you said to me that we should take over the Pacific and West Pacific together to become like Francos Spain and Poskrebyshev. Oh but I guess I was the one trying to "take over" the West Pacific. What a joke.
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Post by SavageLandsReloaded on Dec 22, 2003 20:20:11 GMT -5
Eh, that should've been "dirt"
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Post by SavageLandsReloaded on Dec 22, 2003 20:21:19 GMT -5
dirt, for the love of god
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Post by Siggi tired from this on Dec 22, 2003 20:33:05 GMT -5
Talking and doing are quite different things Twinkles.... and now you have done exactly as Savage.
So now on to the proof that this is how we act in all situations since it is clearly the direction this is headed. Prove it with more than just empty words!!!!
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Post by SavageLandsReloaded on Dec 22, 2003 20:37:04 GMT -5
The truth is I was never trying to "take over" The West Pacific, but nation like Zhandov and Berhampore are clearly working for the Norion propaganda machine.
I grow weary of these bourgeois elitists......
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Post by Twinkles on Dec 23, 2003 10:15:56 GMT -5
I will be releasing a statement on events... sit tight...
It clearly said that you were PLANNING, and NEVER WENT THROUGH WITH IT...
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Post by gettersburg on Dec 23, 2003 13:24:38 GMT -5
OK gettersburg, theres only so much I can take. There are a lot of things I could say about you, but I'm not going to. D'you know why? Because I'm not that sort of person. If you want me to resign, fine, but you could at least tell me in private instead of saying it in front of everyone. This isn't the first time either. I seem to remember you telling me that because I'm female I couldn't 'handle' anything anti francos, and that I needed your 'protection,' I'm as much biased as you are sexist. If you could do a better job, fine, contact jerome. We can do a swap. and NSG, i don't ind if you cover the story. I have asked norion for an interview though... ok ok iam say this for the record i did not mene to say it that way in fact Twinkles you are the best reporter ive seen her and i am vere sorry for what i seid to you fck this iam not loseing a good friend for this plese forgive me Twinkles it was not supose to be this way i relly like the stuff you report and i was angry for what happion and lash out at you and you did not deserve that plese forgive me>kane bow in sham
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Post by Warrior Thorin on Dec 23, 2003 15:33:10 GMT -5
Typical RRA emotion.
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