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Post by WorldNews on Jan 8, 2004 5:45:15 GMT -5
Just because we missed each other, and that you occasionally write something good about me, doesn't mean that you are intitled to write a biased onesided story. You should at least have written that I wasn't able to give my side of the story, which wasn't true, I just wanted to cool down, so I could tel it without flaming. It ispartly your fault and partly my fault. We'll keep in the middle who's fault it mostly was. Mine offcourse. I give you the freedom to write what you want about me. I will not longer offer my help on any story that concerns me. I know now that you have no problem to write about me, without my help. Okay, consider the subject dropped now. Corinthe. I have never written about you what I know off. You have never given me help whatsover with any story what I can remember. I didn't write about you in The Pacific nor in Monte Carlo.
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Post by Corinthe on Jan 8, 2004 6:22:24 GMT -5
Corinthe. I have never written about you what I know off. You have never given me help whatsover with any story what I can remember. I didn't write about you in The Pacific nor in Monte Carlo. It was meant to NetWorkRadio in general, since you were defending the position of NWR, it was adressed at you. If your name was AckbarRedux, you might even say it was a bit personal, since I think that bias is a personal thing. My remarks were adresses at NWR as a whole, since NWR permitted AckbarRedux to print such a story. To anybody else here adressed by me, this is nothing personal. I have no grauch against any of you. I see a story about me, about which I have not been consulted, and I want it rectified. Since NWR is not doing that, I adress NWR as a whole for permitting it and AckbarRedux personal for writing such a onesided story.
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Post by AckbarRedux on Jan 8, 2004 14:03:01 GMT -5
Being perm-banned is better for me. Your story about me was flawed, and far from the truth, because you never wondered why I did ll this. You just wrote a very onesided story full of bias. “Why, because she decided to spam a thread in which she disagreed with the moderators.” Taken directly from the article, this was why you spammed them. Perhaps your accusation was that I was not more empathetic (read biased) towards your point of view. Instead, I chose to report what happened—you disagreed with them, you spammed the forums, you got a forum ban. I am sure you are not happy with what happened, and understand seeing a lack of empathy as an attack. As a NewsFlash I do not feel that every interview or motivation need be explored. Further, when someone blatantly breaks (as opposed to accidentally, are arguably breaking the rules—both which happen), when someone breaks the rules in such a blatant manner any sort of justification hardly excuses the action. Again, your complaint reads that I as not more apologetic for your infraction. You are certainly entitled to your beliefs and thoughts. I have to admit that Corinthe is correct about this. I am quite sure that she would have been more than happy to respond to a request for an interview. Too bad you guys missed that opportunity, but at least you guys remain consistent in remaining biased. I do like the theme suggesting that posting a News Flash is a form of bais. Without turning over every stone, surely there must be an agenda. While such is always good, simply reporting the facts of an event are that, a report of what happened. As to anything I missed, a link was provided to the forum so that all readers could make their own opnion. As to not interviewing Corinthe, such an interview would have been great. We are always looking for new reporters, perhaps you could undertake this yourself. Please note my comments are meant to express critism of comments made, but are made in only the best of spirits. So if reading that I disagree with any point upsets you, I ask you to consider that I am attempting to make light of a disagreement in order that we might come to an understanding if possible, not to in anyway insult any others willing to take the time to disagree. Reading ahead I had considered not even posting this, to allow it dropped. While, if it continues people could become inflamed and that I won’t participate in, since there was again the personal accusation of bias (which is fine, we all have baises) I would ask anyone to re-read what has been said this far. It seems, as the evidence is laid out that I was baised to report what happened in the forums, and not to dig deeper to get to the heart. As time did not allow, that was an option. But to call it bias is intellectually dishonest. Call it lazy, call it reporting facts before having all facts if you want. But to say reporting what actually happened (and it did, as evidence was provided—again the link) it is false to describe this as bias. Ok, I will make a prediction. Corinthe will disagree, which is fine. But I don’t think it adds to the integrity of the site for me to argue against the accusation of bias on this story, and unless something new pops up I won’t add anything else. I would ask others to understand the idea of bias and whether printing facts of a situation rather then investigating to find empathy towards a subject would be called bias. Again, no harm no foul. We disagree Corinthe. Just glad there is a forum we can talk from time to time, since you aren’t allowed in NS anymore. Hope all is well.
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Warrior Thorin
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Post by Warrior Thorin on Jan 8, 2004 15:31:12 GMT -5
Um, I think Corinthe is allowed in NationStates, just not in the Forum.
I publicly stated my apology on the matter of my previous comments. I don't understand why you had to dig that up again. Unless you misunderstood, my apology was meant not just for Jerome (who probably bore the brunt of my tirade), but for all of the reporters here.
However, thank you for explaning the fact that you have made flash reports and that they may have missing information. I think that was important to point out to all of us readers. As a suggestion, perhaps there is a way to point this out in each of your future reports; kind of a disclaimer that can be attached. This way, we readers will know immediately that some information is indeed left out. As for combatting bias, perhaps it may be useful to allow multiple reporters to write stories about events, if possible. You see that all of the time in AP and UPI stories. For example, your report on Corinthe could have been coupled with a follow-up by Twinkles who seems to be friends with Corinthe. This way we get two perspectives on the story. This is merely a suggestion, and if it is not possible to do (you know, coordination plus RL gets in the way, etc.), I perfectly understand. Again, I do appreciate the work and the efforts that you reporters give.
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Post by Corinthe on Jan 8, 2004 17:32:26 GMT -5
They are obviously reporters that take a story how it is served. That part of me flaming the mods is something I have never denied. It was a story about me, so I would have liked a little investigation in the "how" and "why" I did the things I did, but Ackbar has proved himself to be a reporter and definitely not an investigator. I though that Edna Welthorpe was more for the gossip part of NationStates. I was wrong. End of the story is that I am still in Monte Carlo and Fisz got deleted, but since this story was not about why I flamed but more on "how" I flamed, I say we are at the end of it now. I skip the part of Worldnews suffering memory loss. It doesn't matter. I don't think I can find the thread about the "Glitch-invasion" again. It is off-topic anyway.
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Post by lazy on Jan 25, 2004 10:30:07 GMT -5
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Post by Sebastian on Jan 28, 2004 7:07:35 GMT -5
A spanner isnt a wrench.
A wrench wrenches things, a spanner spans them.
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